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PostSubject: Deus Ex is out of IDS   Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:15 am

Yo bro's...
Od danas, više nisam član IDS klana..
IDS je bio moj prvi i zadnji Sniper Elite klan i od sad pa na dalje ja sam slobodni igrač..

Razlog mog napuštanja IDS-a je uzrokovan mojim trenutnim privatnim problemima..
zbog kojih više nemam vremena ni volje za igranjem ili sudjelovanjem kao član ove zajednice
Unatoč mojim privatnim problemima...kap koja je prelila čašu.. i uzrokovala moj
odlazak iz klana je sve veće klansko nepoštivanje temeljnih zakona i oslonca ove zajednice..

Citiram neke fraze koje slove kao temelj klanske filozofije...
"pravila su kao vojska, i da ona jesu stroga, ali uz strogoću dolazi i disciplina"
"kada nastane kaos gdje svatko čini što ga volja, teško je biti striktan i razumjeti šta se događa"

Smatram da ovaj klan više ne stoji iza tih pravila s čime je poljuljana i klanska disciplina...
Pri tome ne mislim samo na činjenicu da neki članovi ovaj klan shvaćaju kao razbibrigu i ubijanje dosade..
pa zbog toga ne poštuju ni dogovore....
Još jedna činjenica koja je porazna je ta..što se kao pravilo spominje i aktvnost igranja člana....gdje mogu samo reći da se po serverima viđa samo nekoliko aktivnih članova koji su uvijek isti...
Još gore je to što nakon preko pola godine igranja...još uvijek neke članove IDS-a nisam nikad ni sreo u igri...
Dali se tu radi o potpunom nedostatku slobodnog vremena ili je riječ o 0% aktivnosti kao igrač...
U redu, mogu uzeti u obzir i vremenske zone...i drugačija vremena ..ali s obzirom da često igram ovisno o slobodi od posla ....često sam na serverima i rano ujutro i u sredini dana i kasno navečer...

Druga stvar koja izlazi iz klanskih normi je sve veći naglasak članova na međusobne odnose ...a ne na igru...
Pri tome posebno mislim da činjenicu da neki članovi ili poznanici na serverima...sami sebi daju veće važnosti od samih članova svog klana...što je jako ponižavajuče i degradirajuće te ubija zajednički duh..

Sad, mogu jedino još dodati...i to da mi je do sad, ipak bilo drago smatrati se članom...te se družiti i zabaljati u ovoj odličnoj igri...
Naravno, veliki plus igranja , odlazi i u upoznavanja novih poznanika i prijatelja...
Meni najbolji naravno dolaze iz klanova ISF, IDS i A.N.G.EL.S

Sve u svemu, svim svojim bivšim su-članovima želim puno budućih pobjeda (pogotovo na A.N.G.EL.S turniru) te više sloge i poslušnosti...
Nadam se da iz ovog posta neće izvući nešto zlonamjerno ...jer to nije bila poanta...
Ubuduće se nadam da sam i dalje dobrodošao na vašim serverima...isto kao što ste i vi na mom...

Veliki pozdrav od: Bivšeg Deus Ex-a






Yo bro's...
From today, i'm no further a member od IDS clan...
IDS was my first and last Sniper Elite clan.. and from hereafter i'm a free player.

The reason for me quiting IDS is caused as a result of my currently private problems due to i don't have any more time or will to play so as being a member of this community..
Despite my personal problems...the drop that spilled the glass..and made me to leave the clan is the clans more and more abandoning from fundamental rules and backbone of this union

I'll quote some od the phrases that stands as a fundamental slogans of clan philosophy
"rules are like military, and yes, they are strict, but in strictness discipline comes"
"When you have chaos of everyone doing his own free will, it is hard to be objective and understand what is happening"

I consider that this clan do not stand behind those rules anymore, and as a result, clan discipline is shaken..
By that, i don't think only on fact that some members, take this clan as a boredom and free time distraction...so thay don't evan wanna folow the rules..
One more disappointed fact that is mentioned as a rule is member playing actvity...where i can only say that all the time, i see few same players
Even worse is the fact that after more than half of year, there are some IDS players i have never meet in the game..
OK, i know that we all live in different time zone...but depending on my free time when i don't work ...i'm very often on servers evan in early morning ..or middle of the day...or very late...

The other thing that do not fits in clans regulation is more and more bigger players accent on relations among each other..and not on game..
By that i think on fact that some members or server guests..give them self bigger rank and significance than members of there own clan.., what can be very disgrace and degrading ..and it kills the spirit of united community

Why the rules are not the same for all..
No, that's not right...and that do not give any desire for further contribution of this community..
And for that and similar slack to certain players I just quit..from this idea..that in this clan ...there are two leaders ...that anyone listen and who give the same treatment to everyone.., and who stands behind every their member...., and members who obey the rules ...determinated by their head superior

Now, i can only add...the fact that..till now ..it was my delight to consider myself as a member of this clan ...and play and have fun with others in this great game..
Of course, big plus of playing this game, comes from meeting new m8's and friends..
My favorites naturally comes from ISF, IDS and A.N.G.EL.S clans..

Bottom line is..i wish many future victorys to all of my ex former members (specially on A.N.G.EL.S tournament) and more unison and obediance inside clan..
I hope that from this post there will be no bad intention pulled out 'coz that was not my point
In future i hope i'll still be wellcome on your servers...same as you will be on my..


Big regard from: Ex Deus Ex
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Ex is out of IDS   Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:23 pm

Man.... m nt going to ask u any ques bt u r 1 of d best player in SE..........
and 1 of mine gud frnd..........

i hope we will play again as a team......


bye my frnd dont forget us
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Ex is out of IDS   Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:03 pm

kao što kazemo u Hrvatskoj : " Neka te voda nosi " . duznosti si fino obavljao i to stoji . no sad , ako mislis da je nekad zaobilaženje pravila zlo , ja kazem da je to nuzna akcija . klan je sastavljen od igraca , iza svakog igraca je zivot njegov i stvarna osoba , nisu to botovi koji slijepo prate programirane vodnice . poanta je , koliko god htjeli imat takva i takva pravila , opet nemogu bit za svakog ista jer nitko nije isti , svaki igrac je osoba individualac . i prije svega najvaznije je stanje uma svakog igraca . ako imamo samo programirane igrace koji prate pravila od slova do slova , izgorit ce sami od sebe . da , naglasak je na odnosima a ne pravilima . kakva korist od pravila ako ce nas samo u klanu "poubijat" . pravila su da stite igrace klana , ne da im otezavaju boravak u klanu . isto vrijedi i za bliske poznanike koji se prdruzuju , to je bit , bliska zajednica . i posto pravila jednostavno nemogu bit ista za sve iz razloga jer igru igraju ljudi a ne roboti , stoga mislim da je sasma pravedno da oni najblizi koji nam hrane duh imaju i povlastice . pravila su da naprave "ogradu" za one koji nemaju nikakve veze s klanom , puki igraci koje boli briga jesi li ti danas imao operaciju mozga ili bilo sto taj dan. tu pravila imaju najvecu vaznost ... zadrzati probleme i ispade i frustracije nepoznatih ljudi izvan svega koji nemaju nikakvu vaznost u bilo kojem pogledu . politika : pastir cuva ovce od vukova . i cak i u stvarnom svijetu u politici zakon ne vrijedi isto za sve , kako onda ocekujes da vrijedi isto i ovdje u igri , u zajednici u kojoj bi zabava trebala bit na vrhu . naravno zabava s granicama . sad ako neko dodje na server i pocne radit gluposti , naravno da ce bit odstranjen , ali ne iz nekih frustracija klana osobnih misljenja ili osveta , nego jednostavno zbog toga da zadrzi losu vibru izvan zajednice klana i njihovih bliskih osoba ...i sam si vidio kakvo je stanje na IDS serverima koji ljudi uporno zele doc i nesto dokazat , vratit se nakon propucane glave , i kad ne uspiju , frustracije pocinju , bivaju izbaceni i onda ispada da je IDS zlocest jer izbacuje igrace . nikad nijedan igrac nije izbacen bezveze , ili zbog svoje dobre igre kao na nekim serverima . tako da i ovom prilikom kazem svima koji bivaju izbaceni i bit ce izbaceni , sami ste si krivi . ako nije direktno vasa krivica , ucinjeno je to za dobrobit klana , i zalit se i trazit objasjenje uvjek mozete na odgovarajucim mjestima . IDS je postavio granicu s pravilima i odnosima ljudi , a oni koji zele na silu preskociti preko ograde u nasu zajednicu i utociste , mogu jedino biti upucani na mjestu i uklonjeni . i da zavrsim napokon , ako pravila nisu ista za sva , zasto bi to bilo lose ? zasto oni koji hrane zajednicu IDSa , i koji su bliski s njom ne bi dobili makar malen znak priznanja dobivajuci neke male povlastice koje bi im pruzale osjecaj sigurnosti ... jednom me neki igrac pitao jesam li bio u vojsci , prilicno smijesno ali vidjelo se da prepoznaje taj vojnicki stav koji ako ti nije bio dovoljan u IDSu neznam gdje ces ga drugdje nac , kao sto si rekao , bolje ti je ko slobodnom agentu . ako IDS nije bio dovoljno krut , onda stvarno neka te voda nosi . a sada biraj s koje ces strane ograde bit , jer ja ne zelim nervozu u svom stadu .
eh, a sad valja ovo sve prevest , covjece .

as we say in Croatia : " Let the water carry you away " . you performed your duties nicely and that stands . but now , if you think that getting around rules sometimes is evil , I call it necessary action . clan is formed from players , behind every player is his life and real person .tha are no bots that follow the programmed guideliness blindly . point is , no matter how much we wanted to have this and that rules ,they again cannot be the same for everyone because no one is the same , every player is an individual . and before all , state of the mind of every player is the most important . if we have just programmed players that follow rules letter by letter , they will burn on themselves . yes , accent is on relations and not on rules . what's the use of rules if they will only "kill" us in clan . rules are to protect the clan players , and not to make their stay in clan more difficult . same applies for close players that join , that is the essence . close group / community . and since rules simply can't be the same for all from the reason that game is played by people not robots , therefore I think that it is fairly righteous that those that are the closest to us , that feed our spirits get the privileges . rules are to make a "fence" for those that hav nothing to with the clan , random players that don't care if you had brain surgery or anything that day , that's where the rules have the most greatest importance ... to keep the problenms and frustrations of unknown people that have no importance at all outside . politics of : shephard guards sheep of wolves . and even in real world in politics law doesn't apply same for all , so how you expect then that isn't the same here in game as well , in community that fun should be on top . of course the fun with limits . now if someone comes on server and starts doing crap m of course he will be removed , but not from some frustrations of the clan , personal opinions or vendettas , but simply because of taht to keep the bad vibe outside of clan community and to it's close persons ... you seen it for yourself what's the condition like on IDS servers that people stubornly wanna come on and prove something . they will come back after being shot in head and when they don't succeed , frustrations start , they get kicked then and it turns out IDS is bad for kicking players . never not one player was kcked for not any reason , or for his good game like on some servers . so taht way I use this opportunity as well say to those that are kicked and will be kicked , it's your fault . if it's not your fault directly it is done for the sake of clan , and you can always complain and seek explanation on appropriate places . IDS has set the border with rules and relations of the people . and those that want to jump over the fence by force into our community and haven , can only get shot on spot and be removed . and to finally conclude , if rules are not the same for all , why would that be bad ? why those that feed the community of IDS , and those that are close get at least small sign of recognition getting some small privileges that would provide them a feeling of safety ... once one player asked me if I were in army , pretty funny but it was seen that he recognizes that military attitude that if it weren't enough for you in IDS , I don't know where else will you find it . as you said , it is better for you to be freelancer . if IDS wasn't stiff enough , then really let the water carry you away . and now choose which side of the fence you will be , because I don't want nervyness in my herd . eh , now all of this needs to be translate , oh man .

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PostSubject: Re: Deus Ex is out of IDS   Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:19 pm

man.......
its to big..........
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Ex is out of IDS   Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:18 pm

Hey man, you shouldn't leave.. From my opinion you were the member with the biggest progress concerning snipping skills by the time you entered the clan. Don't ask me how i know that because we haven't played so much together. But i can understand somethings by myself. Anyway, its your decision. Gl bro.
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PostSubject: Re: Deus Ex is out of IDS   Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:05 am

Ah come on. Why on earth are all leaving?

And speakin on topic. Deus Ex, was always a good character in my eyes. Always liked the way he considered the game, either win or loss. He is indeed one of those who take game for fun. Sad to see another friend drop out of IDS. If it has something to do with me, sorry. But I dont think I've done something wrong or someone related to me has done something wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: Deus Ex is out of IDS   Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:17 am

you're "clean" Dark-Knight ... btw , like your signature here , kinda pops out ...

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